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March 10, 2009 02:20 AM UTC
39 Comments
I will certainly be sure to personally thank my newly elected House Rep for standing up for all of the working families in his district
now for Udall, Bennet, (Romanoff)?
between this and Jared’s understanding of seniority from the column/blog interview, he is proving me wrong.
Thought I had seen it somewhere before here.
But in this story they are mentioning that he is now a co-sponsor, a much more public form of support.
And actual cosponsorship is indeed a bigger deal.
Getting some kind of Blue Dog representing Boulder would have been more painful than I could tolerate for two years. Good for Polis, for taking the right side on this.
I commend his decision.
Who is suprised here??
I wonder how much cash org. labor threw his way? Wow!! cant believe a freshman congressman fell in line behind Pelosi, the White House, and org labor…This is big news!!!
I forgot how cash-poor Polis is. He will do anything for a buck…..cuz he needs it in the worst way, especially considering how vulnerable he is in his district.
What’s a millionaire liberal from Boulder to do????? (Extra question marks added because extraneous punctuation is always a sign of wisdom and sanity.)
Trying not to type “LOL,” even though that’s what I’m thinking.
from a right-wing boiler room. Did they give you a list or did you find coloradopols all by yourself?
Jared took no PAC money from any Unions or anybody else
I thought he only cared about decimating public education.
You can disagree with Cranberg on policy in order to tow the education union line, but keep in mind Cranberg has invested millions of dollars of his own money to provide scholarships to disadvantaged kids. More sophisticated Democrats know his passion for these kids, and that’s why several of them in the legislature work with him on certain issues.
Because I believe in public education.
Then again I’m not a Democrat.
threatening to the teachers unions? Are they that insecure? Then again, you have a point. Alex works to oppose much of the selfish agenda of the teachers unions. He doesn’t oppose public education to my knowledge. Only among the far left and the teacher union bosses is opposing their selfish agenda synonymous with “decimating” public education.
as far as this being a political play, it’s for national exposure amongst national organized labor. it does nothing for his voting base
Do some research on the Second Congressional District. It’s not just Boulder smart guy.
and how much organized labor exists in this district, smart guy? if you think the voting base in CD2 would put organized labor issues above #10 on their priority list, you either don’t live here, haven’t worked the polls here, or are delusional.
I’d be furious at Polis if he didn’t support EFCA, and I’m a somewhat hardcore Democratic activist in his district.
Polis has made clear he wants to be distinguished from the “automatic Democratic” types who never make a controversial stand. But on the other hand, he has to remain a pretty reliable Democratic vote, since otherwise we’ll totally primary him.
I haven’t agreed with Polis on everything, and occasionally I’ve gotten pretty damn pissed with him, but he’s still doing a lot to make constituents like me happy.
no doubt the activists want EFCA. the voting base doesn’t even know what it is
and yes, people in this district want EFCA to pass. Rachel Maddow did a long segment on it last night, and district 2 is pretty much her target audience.
If you have evidence otherwise, that people don’t care about it, feel free to show it. Your “proof by vehemence” has no real effect on me or anyone else.
in fact, couldn’t care less about where this bill goes. i generally support labor, but am agnostic on EFCA. but i am a political realist more than anything. labor issues are not driving politics in CD2. if they were, Jared wouldn’t have wiped the floor with Joan. i am not talking about the Dem base in CD2 – the base that actually goes to meetings and whatnot, I am talking about the voting base. they are two very different groups. The people who actually came out to the polls last November and voted for Jared. If labor even makes the top-10 list of more than 20% of those voters I’d be shocked, and as you well know, people only vote on their top 2 or 3. if anything, my sense is that Joan’s deep ties to labor did some damage to her amongst a not-insignificant part of the voting base (and no, I have no numbers on that, just gut instinct based on being fairly active in the election).
far as the call out to Maddow, that’s pretty funny. CD2 may be Maddow’s target audience, but she lives, and all her producers live, in NYC. i lived there too for a long time. I also lived in DC, deep inside politics. nobody working, living, commentating, etc. from NYC or DC has one iota of a clue what anybody in Colorado thinks, wants or needs. As far as NYC media is concerned, the country ends west of I-287.
Polis is doing what the dems need to do. He took no PAC money so the unions do not hold power over him as you keep hinting.
He understands the dems owe the unions some help but also is very supportive of the unions. I know first hand that he is a very strong supporter of labor.
Every poll I’ve seen on the subject shows overwhelming opposition. EFCA is politics at its worst.
which is known to most Coloradans to be somewhat liberal. If you didn’t know that, well, now you do.
As for every poll you’ve seen, um, can you find even one to cite? I looked it up, and I see overwhelming support.
http://www.uawvotes.com/defaul…
Here is the wording for the poll you site: Do you favor or oppose legislation that allows employees to have a union once a majority of employees in a workplace sign authorization cards indicating they want to form a union? Heck, I would vote for that. But that’s not what the mis-named EFCA does. Bottom line: there would be an unbelievable backlash against the Democrats if they move forward with the bill. So part of me says, go for it. I’d love to see the crazy left agenda exposed for what it is: gaining more control over the economy and Americans’ lives in order to reward certain constituencies. But the consequences of its passage on the nation are too great to just sit back and let it happen.
If you think it’s not, you are woefully and tragically misinformed. Thanks for your support on card-check, though.
Do you have other polls that contradict the one I cited?
Corporation managers and large stockholders are very much opposed to it. Workers are very much in favor of it. Who do you think there’s more of?
http://www.mclaughlinonline.co…
And the question they asked was
I am shocked that when you mislead people about what the bill does (it’s still easy to request a secret ballot election if that’s what the workers want) and suggest that the bill will lead to intimidation, people tend to oppose the legislation.
It does eliminate the secret ballot. It allows union thugs to show up at your house, church, bar, etc., and ask you to sign a card. The thug would know right then and there whether you signed it or not. Ergo, no secret ballot.
And yes, I found it in 46 seconds. I don’t monitor this website 24 hours a day, so that’s why I didn’t post it in 46 seconds.
Workers could easily have a secret ballot using the exact same process as they use now.
If you really believe “union thugs” wander around bars with baseball bats looking for rogue workers, I have to believe that
a) you’ve never been in a bar
b) you’ve never seen a baseball bat
c) you’ve never held a job.
Well, KK, why does it frighten you if workers have a level playing field? It should be no harder to join a union than to join the Chamber of Commerce. The right to form or join a Union is a basic human right (according to Amnesty International)
As I’ve said before, a CEO would not set foot in the workplace (or highrise corner office) without an iron-clad contract. Why would any regular worker not want that?
It’s not just the pay-check, “just cause” and “due process” are aften more valuable.
Now that should be a fundamental right. No one should be required to join an organization with which they have a fundamental disagreement. I agree that everyone should be able to join a union if they want. Why shouldn’t people be allowed to opt out, eh? Look, unions served a purpose in our nation’s history. Probably still do in some cases. But not among government workers. The reality is unions are now an extension of the Democrat Party. They are designed to coerce money out of employees to advance a political agenda that gives them more control over employees (and employers). By unionizing state employees, thus driving up the cost of employing government workers, so that he could shower the Colorado Democrat Party with millions more in confiscated union dues, Bill Ritter has proven once again that he is the nation’s worstest governor!
How is anyone supposed to take a comment like THAT seriously. It’s kind of like the Seinfeld episode when George says, “Oh yeah, well the jerk store called and they ran out of you!” C’mon. You must have something serious to say there sxp151.
If we all had the right to work, that would mean we’d all have jobs all the time. Just like in the Soviet Union! (Check it out sometime – they really did have the right to work – it was in their constitution.) I thought you guys hated socialism.